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Old Jun 03, 2011, 02:57 AM // 02:57   #1
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Polymock is too dull and has awkward controls that I don't like to use. I would've never touch it but....

The problem is, it is the only way to get Asuran summons. Which I really want. Sorry to tell you that I don't have the skills for polymock.

So for the skill-less people like me, how do they acquire these Asuran summons?
Put it in a quest, but the only way to get that quest if you finish all the Asuran's quest/Finish all Asuran Missions/Vanq all Asuran Areas/Finish all Asuran Dungeons/etc. This way, you spend time, not skill.

If you want the Asuran Summons quickly, Polymock is still the fastest way.

Discuss. Constructive Criticism only.
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 03:27 AM // 03:27   #2
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I had to do it with 10 characters. What I figured out was, beat it with one character, save the final gold piece, give that piece to your next character, which makes it so much easier. Once you have done it with all of your characters, give the the final gold piece to the first character.

Or, buy polymock pieces that drop from dungeons from other players, and use them, as having 3 gold pieces is incredibly powerful, and makes the game much easier.
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 04:26 AM // 04:26   #3
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Either what Dagoth said, or you know, you could learn how to play the game. It isn't that hard to do polymock even with the pieces they give you.

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Old Jun 03, 2011, 04:41 AM // 04:41   #4
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i wish they added in other ways to get it. and dont say just cause its easy. it may be easy for you but not for the next person. for me its hard i dont have the good hand/eye cordination to interrupt good enough, and i lag alot so its hard for me. and even with golds polymock pieces it doesnt help. and i tried a lot to get it but never been able to do it.
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 04:59 AM // 04:59   #5
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These quests are good for you to improve your skills and interrupt ability. So if you practice enough or memorize the patterns you will get past it! Unfortunately, for those people on dial-up, old computers or poor connectivity it will be more challenging.

/1 Star I like the quest to stay as is to encourage player development
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 05:00 AM // 05:00   #6
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I had to do it with 10 characters. What I figured out was, beat it with one character, save the final gold piece, give that piece to your next character, which makes it so much easier. Once you have done it with all of your characters, give the the final gold piece to the first character.

Or, buy polymock pieces that drop from dungeons from other players, and use them, as having 3 gold pieces is incredibly powerful, and makes the game much easier.
I didn't know people sell those. I LFB polymock pieces and no one responded for an hour.

From going through dungeons, I haven't seen a single polymock piece yet. I rather redo the content than grind because of luck.

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So if you practice enough or memorize the patterns you will get past it!
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Either what Dagoth said, or you know, you could learn how to play the game. It isn't that hard to do polymock even with the pieces they give you.

If you haven't read, here:
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/1 Star I like the quest to stay as is to encourage player development
Then encourage alts to do that.

With players with lots of alts, they can just play polymock for their player development instead of grinding long content for that. Polymock is the fastest way possible for the players anyways.

So it is skill vs. time.

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Old Jun 03, 2011, 05:11 AM // 05:11   #7
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I didn't know people sell those. I LFB polymock pieces and no one responded for an hour.

From going through dungeons, I haven't seen a single polymock piece yet. I rather redo the content than grind because of luck.





If you haven't read, here:
If you buy gold pieces, study the wiki guides, and put in a good amount of practice and still can't beat it...then you don't get the skill...you can't have something just because you want it...you have to accomplish something and in this case its polymock...same for anything...for example, if your unable to beat gate of madness hard mode you don't get guardian title.
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 05:22 AM // 05:22   #8
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If you buy gold pieces, study the wiki guides, and put in a good amount of practice and still can't beat it...then you don't get the skill...you can't have something just because you want it...you have to accomplish something and in this case its polymock...same for anything...for example, if your unable to beat gate of madness hard mode you don't get guardian title.
So that means I just suck.
As per say the quote:
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Sorry to tell you that I don't have the skills for polymock.
I want an alternative. I rather use time than skills. I don't want to be an interrupter. A human rupter in PvE is a joke. I don't PvP so I don't need the interrupt for your 'player development.'


For GoM, exploit the bug, call for guildmates to help. Polymock requires you to be alone.
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 10:36 AM // 10:36   #9
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I suck at it too, just buy a good piece and faceroll the quests.
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 11:13 AM // 11:13   #10
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I dont like that pokemonesque stuff.
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 11:23 AM // 11:23   #11
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I can see where you are from, I had huge problems with polymock too, hated it alot actually.
In the end I bought a gold polymock piece and it worked out for me, even though I am not really that skilled a player either.
I know it sucks, but I really think you should get yourself a gold piece and then try again.
I can't support this idea, you either have to ignore your dislike and get it done, or you wont get the skills.
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 11:48 AM // 11:48   #12
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If there was no way to cheat at it I would say tough just learn to play.

Since there are lots of guides on how to beat it some of which work very well.
I say just give it to everybody in other ways, once people learn to break areas of GW play there isn't any point in keeping up the mystique any more.
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 12:56 PM // 12:56   #13
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No need to replace it with other quests.

Be patient, don't buttonmash and you'll do fine.
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 01:45 PM // 13:45   #14
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i agree, even though my main got them all with tough luck, i still think the game should have more fun for everyone, not only those who like challenges

(i did it with bought pieces)

/agree and /signed for another and nicer(or nice imo) way to get those skills, as i know enough people who hate polymock

if we talk about challenges must be popular, then give the new quests less xp and money reward, or the skills as only reward

ps. there's millions of topics with this suggestion, how can anet not see that enough people hate it? (same for the forums people for that matter)
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 03:05 PM // 15:05   #15
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So... its a harder quest than most? Just do it. Its really not that bad once you get the hang of it. You just need to give polymock a chance, rather than automatically giving up and saying you'll never get those summons.

/notsigned for sure. If anet added new ways to get the summon skills, then they would also have to add new ways to get other PvE skills, since i am sure that there are some people out there who find the other skills hard or time consuming to obtain.
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 03:41 PM // 15:41   #16
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So for the skill-less people like me, how do they acquire these Asuran summons?
Put it in a quest, but the only way to get that quest if you finish all the Asuran's quest/Finish all Asuran Missions/Vanq all Asuran Areas/Finish all Asuran Dungeons/etc. This way, you spend time, not skill.
All the asuran quests, which means all of the polymock quests as well, which means you'll end up finishing them anyways?

Oversight aside, I don't know why you're using your inability to do a certain quest or line of quests as an excuse to earn their rewards by doing unrelated things. It's like saying you want Air of Superiority, but don't want to do the Cipher quests to get it, so you want the choice to do something else, or you want EBSoH, but don't want to do the quest line up to it, so you want the choice to do other stuff for it. The bottom line though is that those skills are rewards for those quests and those quests only, and there's no good reason to give players those rewards for doing a lot of other things that aren't related to that quest.
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 03:53 PM // 15:53   #17
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So for the skill-less people like me, how do they acquire these Asuran summons?
Games should require skill to play. You wouldn't know it with half the shit these days whose only purpose seems to be to fellate the player with how awesome they are, but they do generally require some sort of ability. Get used to it.
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 04:24 PM // 16:24   #18
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A good solution would be to increase the probability of polymock drops from dungeons. I've done all the dungeons in HM/NM, and I have never seen a polymock piece from a chest.

Perhaps have Z-Gold Rewards sell gold polymocks for exorbitant prices. 20-30 G z coins for a polymock piece is not so low to encourage market glut, but enough for people like the OP to save towards that goal.

Since the format requires the ability to interrupt timely, it is somewhat unfair to many players.
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 04:28 PM // 16:28   #19
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Games should require skill that's true but if having that skill can be avoided by buying tokens than its a little silly to pretend it takes skill.

I appreciate it when players say I had to learn the skills to succeed so should you, this is how it should be.
When someone writes a guide that tells you exactly what skills to use in what order to beat the game then skill has gone from the equation.

When you can buy tokens to give you an edge then again skill immaterial.

The bison trophy can be obtained by using spiritspam so where is the skill

I am told there are ways to beat the Norn tournament and Kilroys punchout without too much trouble.

Seems players should just cheat and use the guides.
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Old Jun 03, 2011, 07:46 PM // 19:46   #20
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Go play The Witcher 2. Die 47 times in the very first fight of the game.

Come back here and tell us GW is too hard. I dare you.
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